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Experiment to create life: Skybuck says "add some spin".
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Skybuck Flying
2014-12-21 19:17:54 UTC
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Hello,

In the past some people have tried to create life:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment

As a computer programmer I believe to make evolution happen there are a
certain kind of properties that life needs to have to be able to evolve.

I am not exactly sure what kind of properties/capabilities life needs but
here is an attempt to describe it:

1. Some kind of "execution" capability. It needs to be able to execute some
kind of code. This implies some kind of "loop" to continuesly spins around.
I will get back to this in a moment.

2. Some kind of "modify" capability.

3. Some kind of "save" capability. So that it can save a modified copy of
itself.

Let's keep it at that for now.

Loops remind me of circles. The circle around the sun, the circling of
earth, the circling of galaxies.

Perhaps life was created because something literally "spinned" it alive.

Therefore to actually create life requires something that will spin the
elements around.

So my suggestion is that the experiment is re-created by this time some
"spin" is added, in the hopes that it will literally spin the elements
alife.

Where in the universe could such spin exist ? Perhaps gasses, perhaps some
kind of star that spins around real fast, Perhaps life was created within.

Perhaps comets that spin around. Perhaps rings like saturns where the
elements are small and could bound together.

So I am not sure how slow or fast it should spin around. This is another one
of those variables that is unknown.

Thus ripe for experimentation.

The experiment could for example start with spinning bulbs, the things that
hold the water and such :)

Perhaps also the tubes, so that the gas can also spin a bit.

Bye,
Skybuck.
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno
2014-12-21 19:42:45 UTC
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Post by Skybuck Flying
As a computer programmer I believe to make evolution happen there are a
certain kind of properties that life needs to have to be able to evolve.
To claim to be a computer programmer would require that you sport a
loittle better grasp of the language you write, and the grammar and
punctuation thereof. And if it is not your first language, then you are
just here, spouting off crap for what reason?

You cannot even 'create' decent human social behavior. I seriously
doubt you ever come close to sparking a 'new life' form.

Goddamned cross posting troll fucktard.
Jim Thompson
2014-12-21 22:33:46 UTC
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:42:45 +0000 (UTC), DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno
Post by DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno
Post by Skybuck Flying
As a computer programmer I believe to make evolution happen there are a
certain kind of properties that life needs to have to be able to evolve.
To claim to be a computer programmer would require that you sport a
loittle better grasp of the language you write, and the grammar and
punctuation thereof. And if it is not your first language, then you are
just here, spouting off crap for what reason?
You cannot even 'create' decent human social behavior. I seriously
doubt you ever come close to sparking a 'new life' form.
Goddamned cross posting troll fucktard.
An unfed troll gathers no podium.

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Pomegranate Bastard
2014-12-22 10:14:21 UTC
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:42:45 +0000 (UTC), DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno
Post by DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno
Post by Skybuck Flying
As a computer programmer I believe to make evolution happen there are a
certain kind of properties that life needs to have to be able to evolve.
To claim to be a computer programmer would require that you sport a
loittle better grasp of the language you write, and the grammar and
punctuation thereof. And if it is not your first language, then you are
just here, spouting off crap for what reason?
Loittle?????

Nymbecile, You're priceless! It's you who is renowned here for being
unable to construct a coherent sentence.
Post by DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno
You cannot even 'create' decent human social behavior. I seriously
doubt you ever come close to sparking a 'new life' form.
Goddamned cross posting troll fucktard.
Skybuck Flying
2014-12-21 19:47:26 UTC
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Now time for some whacky new theorie, cause I love em:

The rings of saturns or other planets could actually be some kind of
computer or machine.

The elements that circle around touch each other from time to time.

Perhaps transferring electrical signals.

Perhaps maybe even chemical.

Perhaps some kind of "planet like"/"ring like" creature or organism was
created from it.

It's life but not as we know it.

Very maybe this life somehow achieved some vague conciousness.

Or perhaps just some mechinal/elemental like machine.

That started to try out all kinds of electrical combinations.

Their elements starts to attract other elements by the force of static
electricity.

One of these attractions led to some nice further evolved elements that were
then later combined to create some kind of life form.

So the rings of the planets themselfes might have created life as part of
their "machinery".

Just a whacky new theorie for space travellers to consider.

After these small organism where created by this gigant planetary mixing
machine... the asteroids moving through the rings did the rest, and carried
this new life to planets to populate them :)

Bye,
Skybuck :)
Skybuck Flying
2014-12-22 09:31:25 UTC
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As a side note.

I am getting close to letting my warriors (corewars related), evolve by
itself.. which uses some of these concepts.

It will be very interesting to see if something good evolves or not.

For now I first need to solve a bug, and then perhaps some more.

Once it's working it will be interesting.

Bye,
Skybuck.
John Doe
2014-12-21 20:27:46 UTC
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Hello,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment
As a computer programmer I believe to make evolution happen there are a
certain kind of properties that life needs to have to be able to evolve.
I am not exactly sure what kind of properties/capabilities life needs but
1. Some kind of "execution" capability. It needs to be able to execute some
kind of code. This implies some kind of "loop" to continuesly spins around.
I will get back to this in a moment.
2. Some kind of "modify" capability.
3. Some kind of "save" capability. So that it can save a modified copy of
itself.
Let's keep it at that for now.
Loops remind me of circles. The circle around the sun, the circling of
earth, the circling of galaxies.
Perhaps life was created because something literally "spinned" it alive.
Therefore to actually create life requires something that will spin the
elements around.
So my suggestion is that the experiment is re-created by this time some
"spin" is added, in the hopes that it will literally spin the elements
alife.
Where in the universe could such spin exist ? Perhaps gasses, perhaps some
kind of star that spins around real fast, Perhaps life was created within.
Perhaps comets that spin around. Perhaps rings like saturns where the
elements are small and could bound together.
So I am not sure how slow or fast it should spin around. This is another one
of those variables that is unknown.
Thus ripe for experimentation.
The experiment could for example start with spinning bulbs, the things that
hold the water and such :)
Perhaps also the tubes, so that the gas can also spin a bit.
Bye,
Skybuck.
Sjouke Burry
2014-12-21 21:02:03 UTC
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Post by John Doe
Crossposted off-topic regular troll...
And you love to re-publish the whole shit while
complaining?
Helping skybuck spreading his shit?
Meneer Orac
2014-12-22 14:52:27 UTC
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Post by Skybuck Flying
Hello,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment
As a computer programmer I believe to make evolution happen there are a
certain kind of properties that life needs to have to be able to evolve.
I am not exactly sure what kind of properties/capabilities life needs but
1. Some kind of "execution" capability. It needs to be able to execute some
kind of code. This implies some kind of "loop" to continuesly spins around. I
will get back to this in a moment.
2. Some kind of "modify" capability.
3. Some kind of "save" capability. So that it can save a modified copy of
itself.
Let's keep it at that for now.
Loops remind me of circles. The circle around the sun, the circling of earth,
the circling of galaxies.
Perhaps life was created because something literally "spinned" it alive.
Therefore to actually create life requires something that will spin the
elements around.
So my suggestion is that the experiment is re-created by this time some
"spin" is added, in the hopes that it will literally spin the elements alife.
Where in the universe could such spin exist ? Perhaps gasses, perhaps some
kind of star that spins around real fast, Perhaps life was created within.
Perhaps comets that spin around. Perhaps rings like saturns where the
elements are small and could bound together.
So I am not sure how slow or fast it should spin around. This is another one
of those variables that is unknown.
Thus ripe for experimentation.
The experiment could for example start with spinning bulbs, the things that
hold the water and such :)
Perhaps also the tubes, so that the gas can also spin a bit.
Bye,
Skybuck.
Ik ben bang voor spinnen.

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