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Solar systems with 2 earths most likely to develop space weapons
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Skybuck Flying
2012-08-30 11:59:39 UTC
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Hello,

Imagine for a moment that there was a second earth orbitting our sun, then
perhaps we would now be at space war with this other planet.

Such scenerios might exist elsewhere in the universe and could therefore
most likely lead to civilizations which develop space weapons.

Perhaps this will then evolve further into inter-solar-system space weapons
if they nearby other stars.

Bye,
Skybuck.
Skybuck Flying
2012-08-30 12:03:09 UTC
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However I am not yet convinced if these scenerios are real.

So far earth seems to have escaped this scenerio, by a collision with
another planet, which resulted into the moon.

So a question needs to be answered first:

Is it theoretically possible for two earth like planets to be in
co-existence in the same solar system ?

Or is it physically impossible because of too much heat, or too much
ice/freezing, or collisions ?

A same orbit seems unlikely, they would have to have the same speed,
otherwise they would eventually collide.

So the only thing I can imagine is different orbits... but is that
theoretically possible ? or is there a "sweet spot for one only".

Bye,
Skybuck.
Brad Guth
2012-08-30 12:39:50 UTC
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Post by Skybuck Flying
However I am not yet convinced if these scenerios are real.
So far earth seems to have escaped this scenerio, by a collision with
another planet, which resulted into the moon.
Is it theoretically possible for two earth like planets to be in
co-existence in the same solar system ?
Or is it physically impossible because of too much heat, or too much
ice/freezing, or collisions ?
A same orbit seems unlikely, they would have to have the same speed,
otherwise they would eventually collide.
So the only thing I can imagine is different orbits... but is that
theoretically possible ? or is there a "sweet spot for one only".
Bye,
  Skybuck.
The vast majority of moons are captured, and otherwise not caused by
any highly improbable collision(s) and much less the added trillion
fold improbable creation of any moon.

Those dust and icy debris rings around other planets have not been
creating moons. At least not within the last 4.5 billion years,
because of tidal force modulation and the continuous influx makes such
a process of collecting any substantial sphere of mass next to
impossible unless it arrived big to start with.

Venus could easily destroy all human life on Earth at any time, but
why should they or other ETs bother to destroy the funnest
entertainment of watching us suffer. If you were ultra wealthy and
had all the necessary talent and surplus of resources, perhaps a clown
infested planet as screwed up as Earth probably could not be created.

What sort of geology looks or acts like this one of Venus?

Venus is perhaps not unlike hell, but otherwise its unusually high
metallicity as indicated by its radar reflective attributes and
surplus of helium plus the mostly geothermal energy driven
environment, is at least technically manageable as long as you have a
functioning brain of a 5th grader without all the usual mainstream
status-quo tumors that disable all of your investigative skills and
deductive reasoning intelligence.

In most news-readers and the Google Groups version of Usenet/
newsgroups we have the usual gauntlet of perpetually off-topic
contributors, as know-it-all FUD-masters that are unpoliced predators
that think its funny to keep fooling our K12s and as many others as
possible and for all the naysay they can muster, as to topic/author
stalking and clowning up everything that isn’t mainstream status quo
in order to suit their own closed mindset.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astronomy/topics
Once you learn how to read around and/or ignore them, it’s really not
so bad, although having such intellectual terrorism continually
reacting as bully tantrums continually taking place can obviously be a
distraction, especially when others fully capable do absolutely
nothing except support these clowns and FUD-masters, because obviously
they too think it’s funny.

Of course to most of you, the fuzzy or blocky pixilated image of “Guth
Venus” is perhaps suggestive of nothing more than offering a terrain
of random geology piles of extruded hot rock. However, within the
patterns of mostly hot rock are those items of somewhat large scale
and extremely interesting formations, that at least on Earth or upon
any other imaged planet or moon hasn’t come remotely close to offering
this level of sophisticated geology complexity and rational community
looking configuration or modification of such a mountainous terrain
site.

Besides merely following my interpretations, take another subjective
look-see and then honestly interpret for yourself as to what some of
those highly unusual patterns could possibly represent, as anything
other than the random geology happenstance of hot rocks.

“Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
https://picasaweb.google.com/102736204560337818634/BradGuth#slideshow/5629579402364691314

This is not to say that more than 99.9999% of Venus doesn’t look
perfectly natural, just like the surface of Earth might look if using
the exact same SAR-C imaging methods and its limited resolution.
After all, a millionth of that hot Venus surface area is still 4.6e8
m2, or 460 km2, and this most complex area of Guth Venus (100 x 100
pixels) that still includes mostly natural geology, isn’t involving
but a fraction more than a millionth of the Venus surface area.

It can also be suggested that initially (4+ billion years ago) our sun
was 25% cooler than nowadays, thereby making Venus quite Goldilocks
approved. But this doesn’t fully explain as to why such a large sale
of a community or mining operation was established.

Other thumbnail images, including “mgn_c115s095_1.gif” (225 m/pixel)
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
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BTW; there's still no American flags on Venus, but there have been
USSR/Russian flags on multiple landers that got there decades before
us. So, perhaps we’ll have to accept that Venus and all of its
natural resources belongs to Russia.

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